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		<title>By: on literary dealbreakers (sort of) &#124; jamelah.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Remember when I declared myself the world&#8217;s only living authority on the hotness of reading material? Maybe you don&#8217;t remember. It&#8217;s okay. But I did. I declared myself to be the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Andy C</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read &lt;i&gt;One Day in the Life of Whatshisname&lt;/i&gt; in winter, on a seemingly unheated, slow midnight train from Montreal to Toronto with no food or drink service. Given that the book is about shivering and starving in Siberia, it made all sorts of painful sense. But &lt;i&gt;A Moveable Feast&lt;/i&gt; would have made me much happier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read <i>One Day in the Life of Whatshisname</i> in winter, on a seemingly unheated, slow midnight train from Montreal to Toronto with no food or drink service. Given that the book is about shivering and starving in Siberia, it made all sorts of painful sense. But <i>A Moveable Feast</i> would have made me much happier.</p>
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		<title>By: jamelah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Srah&lt;/strong&gt; -- Ha. In any case, we agree: Heathcliff is totally not hot.

&lt;strong&gt;Greg&lt;/strong&gt; -- I picked a copy of &lt;em&gt;One Day in the Life of Ivan whatever I&#039;m tired of typing this title&lt;/em&gt; out of a dumpster once. Mainly just because I think that throwing books in a dumpster is wrong. I would&#039;ve left it if the book had been coated in grossness, but it was just sitting on top of some cardboard. It&#039;s been sitting on a shelf ever since. Totally not interested in reading it.

I might disagree with you about all Russian literature. I might be willing to give Dostoevsky a pass. You know who is totally not hot though? TOLSTOY. I HATE TOLSTOY. Reading &lt;em&gt;Anna Karenina&lt;/em&gt; made me want to throw MYSELF under a train.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Srah</strong> &#8212; Ha. In any case, we agree: Heathcliff is totally not hot.</p>
<p><strong>Greg</strong> &#8212; I picked a copy of <em>One Day in the Life of Ivan whatever I&#8217;m tired of typing this title</em> out of a dumpster once. Mainly just because I think that throwing books in a dumpster is wrong. I would&#8217;ve left it if the book had been coated in grossness, but it was just sitting on top of some cardboard. It&#8217;s been sitting on a shelf ever since. Totally not interested in reading it.</p>
<p>I might disagree with you about all Russian literature. I might be willing to give Dostoevsky a pass. You know who is totally not hot though? TOLSTOY. I HATE TOLSTOY. Reading <em>Anna Karenina</em> made me want to throw MYSELF under a train.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, in my defense let me just say that I don&#039;t find &#039;carp mouth&#039; necessarily appealing but...and this is a very important but...I am totally smitten by the sort of reading intensity that will allow somebody to sit in public and go all carp-mouthy. I love that sort of passion.

Second, I wouldn&#039;t have lost my infatuation for her quite so suddenly had she been reading the first book of the Left Behind series. I figure at some point I&#039;ll read that book my ownself, just to see what the fuss is/was about. But it was one of the later books, which suggests to me she was either a True Believer or one of those compulsive people who insist on reading every book in a series in order, even if they&#039;re horrible. 

Finally, although I&#039;m not an authority on hotness of any sort, I would suggest that Russian literature is not hot. I&#039;d rather have my stomach pumped than read Russian literature. I swear, it&#039;s like each individual word in Russian literature weighs more than the same word written by a non-Russian. I can barely pick up a book of Russian literature, the words weigh so much. And that&#039;s in translation; imagine how much &#039;One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich&#039; would weigh in the original Russian. 

I&#039;m willing to bet nobody ever made a carp mouth while reading Solzhenitsyn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, in my defense let me just say that I don&#8217;t find &#8216;carp mouth&#8217; necessarily appealing but&#8230;and this is a very important but&#8230;I am totally smitten by the sort of reading intensity that will allow somebody to sit in public and go all carp-mouthy. I love that sort of passion.</p>
<p>Second, I wouldn&#8217;t have lost my infatuation for her quite so suddenly had she been reading the first book of the Left Behind series. I figure at some point I&#8217;ll read that book my ownself, just to see what the fuss is/was about. But it was one of the later books, which suggests to me she was either a True Believer or one of those compulsive people who insist on reading every book in a series in order, even if they&#8217;re horrible. </p>
<p>Finally, although I&#8217;m not an authority on hotness of any sort, I would suggest that Russian literature is not hot. I&#8217;d rather have my stomach pumped than read Russian literature. I swear, it&#8217;s like each individual word in Russian literature weighs more than the same word written by a non-Russian. I can barely pick up a book of Russian literature, the words weigh so much. And that&#8217;s in translation; imagine how much &#8216;One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich&#8217; would weigh in the original Russian. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet nobody ever made a carp mouth while reading Solzhenitsyn.</p>
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		<title>By: srah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, I meant Heathcliff, not Rochester.  Some Bronte-hero!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I meant Heathcliff, not Rochester.  Some Bronte-hero!</p>
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		<title>By: jamelah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Dave&lt;/strong&gt; -- It&#039;s been a long time since I&#039;ve read it, but I remember parts of the book that made me laugh. Whitney Houston as a jazz singer, for instance. And I think I remember a scene in a department store being funny though I don&#039;t quite remember the particulars. If I&#039;m to believe the movie version (have you seen it?) then the violence is almost cartoon-like, but when I was reading, I had to desensitize myself in order to get through certain parts (such as the dead girl sausage bit). So I could see it from a different perspective when I watched the movie, but when I was reading, it was sometimes just too much.

&lt;strong&gt;Andy&lt;/strong&gt; -- Yay, I win!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dave</strong> &#8212; It&#8217;s been a long time since I&#8217;ve read it, but I remember parts of the book that made me laugh. Whitney Houston as a jazz singer, for instance. And I think I remember a scene in a department store being funny though I don&#8217;t quite remember the particulars. If I&#8217;m to believe the movie version (have you seen it?) then the violence is almost cartoon-like, but when I was reading, I had to desensitize myself in order to get through certain parts (such as the dead girl sausage bit). So I could see it from a different perspective when I watched the movie, but when I was reading, it was sometimes just too much.</p>
<p><strong>Andy</strong> &#8212; Yay, I win!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would absolutely agree that &lt;i&gt;Pamela&lt;/i&gt; wasn&#039;t the first English novel if it weren&#039;t for the back of my paperback copy saying it was. 

On the other hand, I fear disagreeing with you, because you&#039;ll write another of those long sentences at me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would absolutely agree that <i>Pamela</i> wasn&#8217;t the first English novel if it weren&#8217;t for the back of my paperback copy saying it was. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I fear disagreeing with you, because you&#8217;ll write another of those long sentences at me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamelah - Yes!  I don&#039;t think anyone could like the characters in Ellis&#039;s books.  They are scum and Ellis knows it which is why a lot of his stuff is referred to as &quot;black comedy.&quot;  The thing about Psycho is that no one could remember anyone&#039;s name.  The whole purpose of the characters is to get into a great restaurant.  Nothing else seems to matter.  The fact that Patrick Bateman is more concerned about a girl accidentially touching his Rolex than he is with getting her blood all over his sheets is, I suppose, where the black comedy comes in.

I dunno.  I love his style.  I liken him to Hemingway.  Great style, but sometimes they really bore me.

Bah, I need a new book anyway because Boy&#039;s Life by Robert McCammon is boring the hell out of me.  That dude uses way, way too many words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamelah &#8211; Yes!  I don&#8217;t think anyone could like the characters in Ellis&#8217;s books.  They are scum and Ellis knows it which is why a lot of his stuff is referred to as &#8220;black comedy.&#8221;  The thing about Psycho is that no one could remember anyone&#8217;s name.  The whole purpose of the characters is to get into a great restaurant.  Nothing else seems to matter.  The fact that Patrick Bateman is more concerned about a girl accidentially touching his Rolex than he is with getting her blood all over his sheets is, I suppose, where the black comedy comes in.</p>
<p>I dunno.  I love his style.  I liken him to Hemingway.  Great style, but sometimes they really bore me.</p>
<p>Bah, I need a new book anyway because Boy&#8217;s Life by Robert McCammon is boring the hell out of me.  That dude uses way, way too many words.</p>
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		<title>By: jamelah</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Srah&lt;/strong&gt; -- I have a feeling I&#039;m going to be singing &quot;I am I, Don Quixote! The man of La Mancha!&quot; to myself for, oh, &lt;em&gt;hours&lt;/em&gt;. This is okay, however, since I have already declared this sort of activity to be amusing. My memory of &lt;em&gt;Jane Eyre&lt;/em&gt; is kind of weak since I last read it when I was 18, and we somehow ended up talking about vampirism a lot even though there really aren&#039;t any vampires in &lt;em&gt;Jane Eyre&lt;/em&gt;, so, yeah. Or &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; there? Is Rochester a vampire like creepy mold-smelling &lt;em&gt;Twilight&lt;/em&gt; dude? (He also sparkles?) I don&#039;t know if any of that makes sense or not; it has been a long, tiring day.

&lt;strong&gt;Andy&lt;/strong&gt; -- You know, considering how much conduct literature from that era I have actually read (never let it be said that I don&#039;t know how to have a good time), it may almost be surprising that I never came across &lt;em&gt;Pamela&lt;/em&gt;. In regards to that list of novels bearing the claim of being the first novel in English, &lt;em&gt;Robinson Crusoe&lt;/em&gt; clearly pre-dates &lt;em&gt;Pamela&lt;/em&gt;, but now I&#039;m thinking about Aphra Behn&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Oroonoko&lt;/em&gt; (which I happen to have read twice... once for the class in which I was forced to read &lt;em&gt;Robinson Crusoe&lt;/em&gt;, and once just because... I don&#039;t know, I hate myself?), because &lt;em&gt;Oroonoko&lt;/em&gt; is also on the list of first novels, and yet I&#039;m pretty sure it was in this class where I thought I learned that &lt;em&gt;Robinson Crusoe&lt;/em&gt; was the first English novel; furthermore, that class was all about race and gender in the 18th century (though a somewhat loosely-defined 18th century, which began with the tail end of the interregnum/beginning of the Restoration and ended with Jane Austen and I told you that I know how to have a good time) so it seems odd that we wouldn&#039;t have given Aphra Behn her due, unless we were defining a novel by length, in which case &lt;em&gt;Oroonoko&lt;/em&gt; is clearly a novella. Was that not a hell of a sentence? My goodness, yes. I&#039;m tired now. 

&lt;strong&gt;Dave&lt;/strong&gt; -- Interesting point regarding the ending of &lt;em&gt;American Psycho&lt;/em&gt;. I guess I always just assumed that it was real and everyone was so shallow that nobody gave a shit that Bateman was a murderer. I will admit that my problem with Ellis isn&#039;t his writing ability, but rather the fact that I just didn&#039;t like anybody in the book so by the time I got to the end, I also didn&#039;t give a shit. But again, I sort of wonder if that wasn&#039;t exactly the way I was supposed to feel.

&lt;strong&gt;Tom&lt;/strong&gt; -- Hi. I can&#039;t believe that I am no longer the world&#039;s only living authority on the hotness of reading material. My reign was so brief. Maybe I can live with being America&#039;s only living authority on the hotness of reading material. I&#039;ll have to think about that.

Anyway, in regards to your (as yet unpublished) novel, I can agree that both &lt;em&gt;The Unbearable Lightness of Being&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Love in the Time of Cholera&lt;/em&gt; are hot. I think Kundera and Marquez are hot, at least in terms of reading material, which reminds me that I need to stop being daunted by my copy of &lt;em&gt;One Hundred Years of Solitude&lt;/em&gt; in Spanish and just read it. Also, once, back when I was first reading &lt;em&gt;The Unbearable Lightness of Being&lt;/em&gt;, some guy approached me and said &quot;Oh, that&#039;s a great book,&quot; and I barely looked up and said &quot;Yep.&quot; It wasn&#039;t until hours later that I realized that &lt;em&gt;maybe&lt;/em&gt; he was trying to start a conversation with me and I AM SO HOPELESS.

Alas. At least I have all of Jane Austen&#039;s books.

And finally, because I have been going on for quite awhile, reading Rimbaud (in translation, of course) made me wish I could read French. Haven&#039;t gotten around to learning French, though, because I have enough other languages rattling around my head as it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Srah</strong> &#8212; I have a feeling I&#8217;m going to be singing &#8220;I am I, Don Quixote! The man of La Mancha!&#8221; to myself for, oh, <em>hours</em>. This is okay, however, since I have already declared this sort of activity to be amusing. My memory of <em>Jane Eyre</em> is kind of weak since I last read it when I was 18, and we somehow ended up talking about vampirism a lot even though there really aren&#8217;t any vampires in <em>Jane Eyre</em>, so, yeah. Or <em>are</em> there? Is Rochester a vampire like creepy mold-smelling <em>Twilight</em> dude? (He also sparkles?) I don&#8217;t know if any of that makes sense or not; it has been a long, tiring day.</p>
<p><strong>Andy</strong> &#8212; You know, considering how much conduct literature from that era I have actually read (never let it be said that I don&#8217;t know how to have a good time), it may almost be surprising that I never came across <em>Pamela</em>. In regards to that list of novels bearing the claim of being the first novel in English, <em>Robinson Crusoe</em> clearly pre-dates <em>Pamela</em>, but now I&#8217;m thinking about Aphra Behn&#8217;s <em>Oroonoko</em> (which I happen to have read twice&#8230; once for the class in which I was forced to read <em>Robinson Crusoe</em>, and once just because&#8230; I don&#8217;t know, I hate myself?), because <em>Oroonoko</em> is also on the list of first novels, and yet I&#8217;m pretty sure it was in this class where I thought I learned that <em>Robinson Crusoe</em> was the first English novel; furthermore, that class was all about race and gender in the 18th century (though a somewhat loosely-defined 18th century, which began with the tail end of the interregnum/beginning of the Restoration and ended with Jane Austen and I told you that I know how to have a good time) so it seems odd that we wouldn&#8217;t have given Aphra Behn her due, unless we were defining a novel by length, in which case <em>Oroonoko</em> is clearly a novella. Was that not a hell of a sentence? My goodness, yes. I&#8217;m tired now. </p>
<p><strong>Dave</strong> &#8212; Interesting point regarding the ending of <em>American Psycho</em>. I guess I always just assumed that it was real and everyone was so shallow that nobody gave a shit that Bateman was a murderer. I will admit that my problem with Ellis isn&#8217;t his writing ability, but rather the fact that I just didn&#8217;t like anybody in the book so by the time I got to the end, I also didn&#8217;t give a shit. But again, I sort of wonder if that wasn&#8217;t exactly the way I was supposed to feel.</p>
<p><strong>Tom</strong> &#8212; Hi. I can&#8217;t believe that I am no longer the world&#8217;s only living authority on the hotness of reading material. My reign was so brief. Maybe I can live with being America&#8217;s only living authority on the hotness of reading material. I&#8217;ll have to think about that.</p>
<p>Anyway, in regards to your (as yet unpublished) novel, I can agree that both <em>The Unbearable Lightness of Being</em> and <em>Love in the Time of Cholera</em> are hot. I think Kundera and Marquez are hot, at least in terms of reading material, which reminds me that I need to stop being daunted by my copy of <em>One Hundred Years of Solitude</em> in Spanish and just read it. Also, once, back when I was first reading <em>The Unbearable Lightness of Being</em>, some guy approached me and said &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s a great book,&#8221; and I barely looked up and said &#8220;Yep.&#8221; It wasn&#8217;t until hours later that I realized that <em>maybe</em> he was trying to start a conversation with me and I AM SO HOPELESS.</p>
<p>Alas. At least I have all of Jane Austen&#8217;s books.</p>
<p>And finally, because I have been going on for quite awhile, reading Rimbaud (in translation, of course) made me wish I could read French. Haven&#8217;t gotten around to learning French, though, because I have enough other languages rattling around my head as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually did research on this once. Real, pseudo-scientific research involving surveys and fieldwork and stuff. So, however apprehensively, I feel reasonably well equipped to claim some level of authority approaching yours.

The result of my research (which admittedly dates from almost twenty years ago, and therefore excludes some of the writers and texts cited above) was used (by me) in a(n as yet unpublished) novel in which the protagonists cruised the London underground system ostentatiously reading &quot;hot&quot; texts in order to pick people up. The two texts which proved the most successful (with both sexes) were &quot;The Unbearable Lightness of Being&quot; and &quot;Love in the Time of Cholera&quot;. In a delightfully self-referential twist, a man reading &quot;Anna Karenina&quot; also appealed particularly to women.

I can also confirm that reading Samuel Beckett is hot, though that is based not on scientific research, but on the fact that my ex-wife was reading &quot;Molloy&quot; when I first spied her.

I&#039;m not sure about &quot;location, location, location&quot; as far as Neruda goes, but I was (metaphorically, then, shortly afterwards, literally) seduced by someone on Flickr whose stream first caught my attention when she posted an image of a page of one of his love poems.

Finally, I can guarantee that I would have hit on you had I spotted you reading French Symbolist poetry in Denny&#039;s, or anywhere else for that matter. This is because the doctoral thesis I never wrote (a story for another day) was on, well, French Symbolist poetry, and as you can imagine, having not written my thesis, I have a lot of unwritten thoughts I would like to share with someone one day.

That is all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did research on this once. Real, pseudo-scientific research involving surveys and fieldwork and stuff. So, however apprehensively, I feel reasonably well equipped to claim some level of authority approaching yours.</p>
<p>The result of my research (which admittedly dates from almost twenty years ago, and therefore excludes some of the writers and texts cited above) was used (by me) in a(n as yet unpublished) novel in which the protagonists cruised the London underground system ostentatiously reading &#8220;hot&#8221; texts in order to pick people up. The two texts which proved the most successful (with both sexes) were &#8220;The Unbearable Lightness of Being&#8221; and &#8220;Love in the Time of Cholera&#8221;. In a delightfully self-referential twist, a man reading &#8220;Anna Karenina&#8221; also appealed particularly to women.</p>
<p>I can also confirm that reading Samuel Beckett is hot, though that is based not on scientific research, but on the fact that my ex-wife was reading &#8220;Molloy&#8221; when I first spied her.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about &#8220;location, location, location&#8221; as far as Neruda goes, but I was (metaphorically, then, shortly afterwards, literally) seduced by someone on Flickr whose stream first caught my attention when she posted an image of a page of one of his love poems.</p>
<p>Finally, I can guarantee that I would have hit on you had I spotted you reading French Symbolist poetry in Denny&#8217;s, or anywhere else for that matter. This is because the doctoral thesis I never wrote (a story for another day) was on, well, French Symbolist poetry, and as you can imagine, having not written my thesis, I have a lot of unwritten thoughts I would like to share with someone one day.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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